- Mdille3: we actually have an agenda today...
- Awesie: ehhh...
- Awesie
- some FPS
- Saturday
- lenny
- booted the 2.6.24 kernel we've been running
- would not boot the Xen DomU kernel that came with lenny
- probably because the hypervisor in etch is _really_ old
- there is an etch-bootstrap.txt file in Mkasick's home directory
- Jwatzman: don't like the magic image
- Mkasick: debootstrap doesn't populate /etc quite right
- Mkasick: it's not really a particularly magic image; basic
Debian image (through qemu) with xen kernel modules installed
- Mkasick: will play around with Xen lenny stuff over the next
couple days, evaluate xen-tools, try to eliminate some of our
custom packages
- idea, Mkasick does i386, then somebody else does amd64
- Jwatzman: is Zephyr the only reason why things are painful for
us?
- yeah, pretty much
- CMU Zephyr build seems heavily bolted onto krb4kth, so
also need heimdal, ...
- keep old versions of shells for Zephyr?
- Kbare: concerned that they'll die at some point, and
we'll never figure out how to recreate them
- rebuilding heimdal, krb4, isn't that hard; it's only
really Zephyr that's the painful part
- What about our patches against ssh?
- something about incompatible MIC between heimdal and kerberos
- this hopefully won't be an issue any more, probably can just
use upstream ssh
- AFS?
- was very special
- currently running some funny, special AFS
- at this point, I think the only issue we had was the unaligned
trap issue
- we were probably the only people (including Aij, who's in the
room) that ever ran AFS file servers on alpha
- PAG issues?
- eventually there came to be PAM support for heimdal and
AFS
- issue with all logins (including those for root and other
system users) going into PAGs
- probably need changes to libpam-heimdal, but that's a
pretty small thing
- Awesie: want newer AFS
- Mkasick: did write instructions for myself the last time I did
this, so should be able to do it again
- Amd64: does our build machine still work?
- processor + motherboard was probably about $38
- Kbare: worked the last time I built packages
- Alphas
- zeroed three, two went to the loading dock
- Operations
- Java
- installed it on shells (not quite as terribly unreasonable now,
since the machines are faster now)
- Mreiss: because of 15-111, stack overflow
- Java doesn't support tail-call elimination
- worst case quicksort, O(N^2)
- Event
- number of people
- Awesie: thought it was good
- went until past 12:00am
- mostly Battle Field Desert Combat
- hopefully more variety next time
- sold 1 T-shirt, for $16 (and also got pizza)
- complaint: can't eat and play games at same time
- advertising didn't work so well
- we have an event checklist
- most of our posters got taken down
- one of them was even taken down from the door, while we were
in the cluster
- angry mumble; "I'm giving this to Kimberly."
- confused people walking by the cluster, surprised by the LAN party
being in the Mac cluster
- seemed like people enjoyed it
- Windows retro game thing?
- apparently the CellServDB entry for our cell (on Windows cluster
machines) hadn't been updated in approximately 4 years
- Red Alert
- Total Annihilation
- Windows compatability problems?
- administrator issues?
- sploits?
- financial mumble
- Mdille3 needs money
- had $67 pizza bill, veggie pizza was expensive ($22?)
- two topping instead, mushrooms + green peppers
- Retro committee
- Mdille3: have achieved [60hz] nirvana
- won't buy any more retro things again
- yeah right
- 2nd Reality was ported to C64
- tried it, didn't work on our C64
- suspected needed modified ROM (i.e., JiffyDOS)
- or maybe needed a European PAL C64
- something about first C64s being destroyed in Japan
- new seller, crazy test harness
- took a long time to come, was starting to get worried
- then showed up
- we can do C64 2nd Reality
- Finance committee
- De0u: I think the Federal Reserve is a bad idea
- bought something last night, 300ft stereo headphone jack that was
yellow...
- no, seriously, bought the stuff
- in the future, for Monoprice, PID is all you need
- will be happy about getting SCSI cables
- long audio cable is likely Michael's fault...
- De0u: that is ridiculously long
- De0u: management things have frightening errata issues
- Mkasick
- sort of relevant
- VirtualBox supports amd64 now
- in sid, but libc upgrade pain
- De0u: 64-bit machines are good at using more memory
- pointers are twice as big
- Kbare:
- what does this do:
movl array(%ebx), %eax
- how about
movq array(%rip), %rax
- they're completely different
- Mdille3:
- none of you did my embedded arm work
- Awesie/Mkasick: you were complaining about it, didn't seem like
something we'd want to do
- had to deal with patches, they change the Linux driver API every
couple minor kernel versions
- kernels didn't like to boot
- now can concentrate all energies on 50hz